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Yukon

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:54:26 MST

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Yukon - YukonCornelius.jpg

Sam the Snowman

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:52:40 MST

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Sam the Snowman - SamtheSnowman.jpg

Rudolph

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:51:27 MST

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Rudolph - Rudoplh.jpg

Rudolph & Clarice

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:50:14 MST

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Rudolph & Clarice - RudolphClarice.jpg

Mr. & Mrs. Claus

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:49:17 MST

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Mr. & Mrs. Claus - MrMrs.jpg

Freeze & Heat Miser

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:48:22 MST

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Freeze & Heat Miser - Miser.jpg

Postman

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:49 MST

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Postman - Mailman.jpg

Santa & Waddles

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:47:09 MST

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Santa & Waddles - ChrisWaddles.jpg

Bumbles

Tellmyre — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:31 MST

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Bumbles - Bumbles.jpg

Alien

Tellmyre — Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:43:04 MDT

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Alien - 100_6978.jpg

Invader Pinata

Tellmyre — Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:33:30 MDT

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Invader Pinata - 100_6957.jpg

Invader Pinata

Tellmyre — Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:33:14 MDT

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Invader Pinata - 100_6976.jpg

Enterprise D

Tellmyre — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:53:19 MDT

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Enterprise D - 100_6938.jpg

Enterprise D

Tellmyre — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:50:08 MDT

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Enterprise D

Tellmyre — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:43:35 MDT

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Enterprise D - EnterpriseD.jpg

Enterprise D

Tellmyre — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:00:03 MDT

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Enterprise D - 100_6858.jpg

Enterprise D

Tellmyre — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:59:18 MDT

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Enterprise D - 100_6857.jpg

Boxing 3

Tellmyre — Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:43:16 MDT

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Boxing 3 - Boxing3.jpg

Boxing 2

Tellmyre — Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:42:25 MDT

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Boxing 2 - Boxing2.jpg

Boxing 1

Tellmyre — Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:41:27 MDT

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Boxing 1 - Boxing1.jpg

I see you!!!!

Tellmyre — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:32:35 MDT

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I see you!!!! - 100_6815.jpg

Loosing one's head

Tellmyre — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:32:34 MDT

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Loosing one's head - 100_6804.jpg

Rawhead Rex

Tellmyre — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:32:08 MDT

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Rawhead Rex - RawheadRexSr.jpg

Demons of Jedediah Pan

Tellmyre — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:32:14 MDT

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Demons of Jedediah Pan - C74-KenKelly.jpg

Hunter & Exterminator

Tellmyre — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:30:18 MDT

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Hunter & Exterminator - C73-KenKelly.jpg

Zombie Giant

Tellmyre — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:29:47 MDT

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Zombie Giant - C65-KenKelly.jpg

Coffin

Tellmyre — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:28:01 MDT

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Coffin - C61-KenKelly.jpg

Dr Jekyll - Aurora

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 09:11:30 MDT

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Dr Jekyll - Aurora - DrJekyll.jpg

PRODUCER: Aurora/Moebius. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: 1/25. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene & Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Base ha been altered. Book case and contents is aftermarket from Night Owl Models. Added knobs hinges to doors. Scratch-built bunsen burner.

Hunchback - Aurora

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 09:09:21 MDT

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Hunchback - Aurora - Hunchback-Aurora.jpg

PRODUCER: Aurora. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Replaced platic roopes with real ones.

Cheshire Cat

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:46 MDT

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Cheshire Cat - CheshireCat.jpg

PRODUCER: Bandersnatch Studios. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. From Alice in Wonderland.

Creature from the Black Lagoon

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:43 MDT

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Creature from the Black Lagoon - Creature.jpg

PRODUCER: GeoMetric Designs. SCULPTOR: T. Holtner Bruckner SCALE: 1/25. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection.

Horror Mount

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:37 MDT

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Horror Mount - HorrorMount.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: n/a. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection.

Vulture

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:31 MDT

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Vulture - Vulture.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Personal Collection.

Wolfman

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:29 MDT

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Wolfman - Wolfman-Aurora.jpg

PRODUCER: Auroa / Monogram. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene. NOTES: Personal Collection. Skull is from Forgotten Prisoner.

Shark

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:26 MDT

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Shark - Shark.jpg

PRODUCER: n/a. SCULPTOR: n/a. SCALE: n/a. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Plastic. NOTES: Personal Collection. Heavily altered DC-3 using only its own parts and putty.

Saucerman

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:24 MDT

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Saucerman - Saucerman.jpg

PRODUCER: Tsukuda. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Vinyl. NOTES: Personal Collection.

Rawhead Rex Jr.

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:20 MDT

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Rawhead Rex Jr. - RawheadRexJunior.jpg

PRODUCER: Shawn Nagle. SCULPTOR: Shawn Nagle. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Comissioned Pieced. Slightly altered base.

Princess Leia

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:17 MDT

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Princess Leia - PrincessLeia.jpg

PRODUCER: Kaiyoda. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Vinyl. NOTES: Personal collection.

Bigfoot

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:15 MDT

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Bigfoot - Bigfoot.jpg

PRODUCER: Action Hobbies. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Altered action figure of Steve Irwin. Scratch-built base.

Batteries Not Included

Tellmyre — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:23:09 MDT

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Batteries Not Included - BatteriesNotIncluded1.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: Full. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Scratch-built base. Scene where weems is rebuilding the apartment house.

Avatar

Tellmyre — Mon, 11 May 2009 13:31:33 MDT

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Avatar - Avatar.jpg

Hades

Tellmyre — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:46:33 MDT

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Hades - Hades.jpg

PRODUCER: Rocco Tartamella. SCULPTOR: Rocco Tartamella. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Greek god of the Underworld

Abby Cadabra

Tellmyre — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:30:46 MDT

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Abby Cadabra - AbbyCadabra.jpg

PRODUCER: Soldat. SCULPTOR: Joe Laudati SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Rings added to kit. Base added. Pedestal added.Also added wiskers to rabbit.

Tremors 2

Tellmyre — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:25:47 MDT

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Tremors 2 - TremorsII2.jpg

Musette

Tellmyre — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:42:45 MST

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Musette - Musette.jpg

PRODUCER: Fogger Studios. SCULPTOR: Rick Barrows. SCALE: Unknown. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal collection. Clothing is added, made from costume jewelry and chamois cloth.

Grinch

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:38:18 MST

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Grinch - 767973441.jpg

I don't own this but would like to. I did not paint it. I believe this photo is from Producer's website - Needful Things - Dark Carnaval.

Grinch - Jim Carrey

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:04:14 MST

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Grinch - Jim Carrey - Grinch-Bust.jpg

I don't own this but its cool. I did not paint it. I believe this photo is from Producer's website.

Grinch & Cindy Lou Who

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:04:12 MST

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Grinch & Cindy Lou Who - 772694191.jpg

I don't own this but would like to. I did not paint it. I believe this photo is from Producer's website - Needful Things - Dark Carnaval.

Rankin Bass Characters

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:04:09 MST

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Rankin Bass Characters - Christmas.jpg

I have several of these Rankin Bass kits unpainted. I might consider selling them. I believe this photo is from one of a Wonderfest.

Grinch & Max

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:52:11 MST

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Grinch & Max - Grinch.jpg

I loved painting this one. I got from Raven Hood.

Santa 1

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:21 MST

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Santa 1 - 100_4356.jpg

I own this one. Paint it up. Nice little figure from Jimmy Flintstone I believe. (1/25 scale)

Santa 2

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:19 MST

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Santa 2 - 100_4360.jpg

Another Santa I own. A little bit bigger than Santa 1. I believe it also came from Jimmy Flintstone.

Santa's Helper

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:16 MST

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Santa's Helper - 100_4361.jpg

Cute little elf I own. Wink, wink. I believe I got this also from Jimmy Flintstone. Roughly in scale with Santa 1. (1/25 scale)

Dickens Characterers

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:14 MST

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Dickens Characterers - 100_4362.jpg

I got these recently off of EBay. Nice 2" metal figures from Imrey Risley. Still need to get the ghosts and Scrooge himself.

Frosty

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:10 MST

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Frosty - 100_4364.jpg

I got this figure a while back. Stands about 6 or so inches tall.

Cindy Lou Who

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:41:07 MST

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Cindy Lou Who - 100_4366.jpg

Don't remeber where I got this one from.

Rawhead Rex

Tellmyre — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:50:12 MST

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Rawhead Rex - RawheadRex.jpg

PRODUCER: Shawn Nagle. SCULPTOR: Shawn Nagle. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Comissioned Pieced. The base is not part of the original sculpture.

Gandalf & Eagle Lord 2

Tellmyre — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:19:18 MDT

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Gandalf & Eagle Lord 2 - LordoftheRings-EagleLord2a.jpg

Gandalf & Eagle Lord 1

Tellmyre — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:19:13 MDT

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Gandalf & Eagle Lord 1 - LordoftheRings-EagleLord1a.jpg

Pteranodon (2nd view)

Tellmyre — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:17:29 MDT

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Pteranodon (2nd view) - Pteranodon2a.jpg

PRODUCER: Tamiya. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/35. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Plastic NOTES: Personal collection.

Kirk & Gorn Diorama

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:32:05 MDT

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Kirk & Gorn Diorama - KirkGorn.jpg

Commission for The Bradford Group. Part of a bigger set. Figures stand about 2" tall.

Davy Jones Chess Piece

Tellmyre — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:31:49 MDT

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Davy Jones Chess Piece - DavyJones.jpg

Commission for The Bradford Group. Part of a larger set. Figure stands about 2" tall without chest.

Pteranodon

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:46:57 MDT

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Pteranodon - Pteranodon3a.jpg

PRODUCER: Tamiya. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/35. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Plastic NOTES: Personal collection.

Ceti Alpha Eel

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:46:15 MDT

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Ceti Alpha Eel - CetiEel.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: Full. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Creature from Star Trek - Wrath of Kahn.

Neandrythal

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:30:50 MDT

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Neandrythal - Neanderthal.jpg

PRODUCER: Newmanoid Models. SCULPTOR: Mark Newman. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal collection. Snow & plant life added to base.

The Mummy (base)

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:30:37 MDT

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The Mummy (base) - Mummy3.jpg

PRODUCER: GeoMetric Designs. SCULPTOR: William Paquet. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Personal Collection.

The Mummy

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:30:22 MDT

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The Mummy - Mummy2.jpg

PRODUCER: GeoMetric Designs. SCULPTOR: William Paquet. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Vinyl with resin base. NOTES: Personal Collection.

Wolfman

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:22:53 MDT

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Wolfman - Wolfman.jpg

PRODUCER: Dark Horse. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Personal Collection. Skull is from the old Aurora Forgotten Prisoner. Dead plant life added.

Tiki Surf Club

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:22:41 MDT

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Tiki Surf Club - TikiSurfClub.jpg

PRODUCER: Revell. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/25. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Plastic. NOTES: Personal Collection. Diorama from Surfite car.

Planet of the Apes Liberty Statue

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:21:56 MDT

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Planet of the Apes Liberty Statue - POTALiberty.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: Unknown MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal collection. Diorama of half-buried Liberty Statue.

Alfred X

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:09:45 MDT

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Alfred X - AlfredX.jpg

PRODUCER: Revell. SCULPTOR: Unknown SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene NOTES: Personal Collection. Vintage kit modified to be a parity off of X Files. Notice Mad Magazine on floor is copy of real cover of magazine lampooning Mulder & Scully

Hunchback of Notre Dame

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:09:24 MDT

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Hunchback of Notre Dame - Hunchback.jpg

PRODUCER: GeoMetric. SCULPTOR: Gabriel Marquez SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection

Mouse Herder

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:02:12 MDT

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Mouse Herder - MouseHerder.jpg

Producer: Thunderbolt Mountain

Minotaur

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:01:42 MDT

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Minotaur - Minotaur.jpg

Scale: 54 mm. Producer: Ral Partha

Charon

Tellmyre — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:01:26 MDT

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Charon - Charon.jpg

Scale 54mm. Base is scratch built.

Tremors

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:26:50 MDT

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Tremors - Tremors.jpg

PRODUCER: GeoMetric Designs. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin & Metal. NOTES: Personal Collection. Added barb wire

Edgar Allan Poe

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:26:39 MDT

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Edgar Allan Poe - Poe.jpg

PRODUCER: Unknown. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal collection. Added real feather to pen. tipped up floor board as an inspiration to Tell Tale Heart.

Phantom of the Opera

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:26:12 MDT

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Phantom of the Opera - PhantomofOperaa.jpg

PRODUCER: Aurora / Monogram. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene NOTES: Personal collection. Heavily altered base to achieve catacombs type environment. Added candelabra and cloak chain. Mask relocated to face.

Frankenstein Monster

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:18:47 MDT

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Frankenstein Monster - Frankenstein.jpg

PRODUCER: Dark Horse. SCULPTOR: Randy Bowen SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Added chains to waist as well.

Dracula

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:18:13 MDT

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Dracula - Dracula.jpg

PRODUCER: Aurora / Monogram. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene. NOTES: Personal Collection. Bats altered to be more realistic. Cross on base added near tree trunk.

Tusken Raider

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:15:14 MDT

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Tusken Raider - TuskenRaider.jpg

PRODUCER: Polydata. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/7. MATERIAL: Vinyl. NOTES: Personal Collection. Star Wars. Custom base.

The Crow

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:13:08 MDT

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The Crow - Crow.jpg

PRODUCER: Intelag. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Vinyl. NOTES: Personal Collection. Base is from a different Crow prepaint but has been repainted. Guitar & gun added. Gun hand re-sculpted by Gabriel Marquez.

Forgotten Prisoner of Castle Mare

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:04:49 MDT

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Forgotten Prisoner of Castle Mare - ForgottenPrisoner.jpg

PRODUCER: Aurora / Monogram. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Injection Molded Styrene. NOTES: Personal Collection. Snake & spider omitted. Both would not be in a French Dungeon. Extra Arm omitted - just a distraction from the overall scene. Empty water cup added. Sandy floor added. Chains relocated.

Chronos

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:04:39 MDT

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Chronos - Chronos.jpg

PRODUCER: Stephen Venters. SCULPTOR: Stephen Venters SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection. Scratch built blade.

Pallida Mors

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:03:47 MDT

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Pallida Mors - PalidaMors.jpg

PRODUCER: Jim Falkes. SCULPTOR: Jim Falkes. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal collection. Base painted to suggest hot coals. Scythe scratch built.

Metaluna Mutant

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:53:28 MDT

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Metaluna Mutant - MetalunaMutant.jpg

PRODUCER: Tsukuda. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Vinyl NOTES: Personal Collection.

Gandalf & Balrog

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:30:08 MDT

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Gandalf & Balrog - Balrog.jpg

Lord of the Rings - Good & Evil locked in mortal combat.Base is scratch built.

Grinch & Max

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:23:01 MDT

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Grinch & Max - Grinch.jpg

PRODUCER: Raven Hood. SCULPTOR: Raven Hood SCALE: 1/8. MATERIAL: Resin NOTES: Personal Collection.

Legend of Sleepy Hollow

Tellmyre — Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:21:37 MDT

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Legend of Sleepy Hollow - SleepyHollow.jpg

PRODUCER: Shape of Things. SCULPTOR: Unknown. SCALE: 1/6. MATERIAL: Resin. NOTES: Personal Collection. This is a large diorama measuring 24" square. Base is scratch built. Tomb stones are from "GeoMetric".Figures are from "Shape of Things". Cloak is made from Chamois Cloth soaked in Future floor wax.